John Marsh: Duck Under for Jiu-Jitsu
John Marsh's duck under as a decision tree: from the collar tie, inside tie, or wrist control, how he finishes it and what to do when they limp-arm out. Built from his free lessons and linked to the matching course lessons.
Flow outline
Collar tie with an inside tie
- Push into him and squeeze his head and neck together. Lead the same leg as your collar-tie hand, so his only attack is the single leg.
Duck under: push, then lose the battle
- Push him toward the edge until he pushes back. Then let him think he's winning: as you give ground, your outside leg comes forward. The outside lunge step puts pressure into him on the first step; the inside step takes two.
- Same move from the inside tie, your wrist control, or his wrist control.
- John: “I let him think he's starting to beat me, and now look, my other leg is forward.”
- In his courses
- Duck Under From The Collar Tie (I Shoot I Score)
- Setting Up The Duck Under Off A Fake Trip (I Shoot I Score)
- Duck Under From Opponent's Collar Tie (I Shoot I Score)
- Far Side Duck Under (I Shoot I Score)
- Fake Sweep To Duck Under (Takedown the World)
He has your wrist
- Don't pull the arm in. Pretend you can't get it free and let him hold on.
Make a T and rip the arm up
- Push the arm out straight, flare it into a T, and rip it up: his grip is strong if you pull, weak this way.
Lift his arm, pop up into him
- Head inside and up, top of your head into him, not into his bicep. Lift his arm up and around your head instead of ducking under it, and look up the whole time. Once you're through, let go of his arm. Hang on and turn in, and he hits sideways into you and knocks you back.
Keep the neck, side lunge down
- Never let go of the neck. Elbow in your ribs, post on the leg, and side lunge until your front knee hits the mat, staying in the arm-triangle position. Land with a hand on his hip and your knee on the other hip so he can't hip escape.
- John: “The most important thing when you finish is do not let go of the neck.”
- In his courses
- Finishing In Side Control And On The Back (I Shoot I Score)
- Double Knee Drop Finish (I Shoot I Score)
- Efficiently Lifting Your Opponent To Finish (I Shoot I Score)
He limp-arms and turns away
- That happens when your arm is loose or your head isn't tight into him. Stay on the neck: the more he fights, the easier the back.
Side control or mount
His back
Branch conditions
- he pushes back
- he grabs your wrist